Monday Night Sample - Lil Nas X - Old Town Road
I'm far from a Lil Nas X fan. But this story came as news to me this weekend. Shocked I had no idea this sample was an Atticus and Reznor riff that never got cleared.
Rolling Stone - When Trent Reznor first heard âOld Town Road,â he was surprised. The song used a short section of banjo from â34 Ghosts IV,â a track off of Nine Inch Nailsâ mostly instrumental 2008 album Ghosts IâIV that Lil Nas X and producer YoungKio had souped up with trap beats and an unforgettable chorus. Hearing his music out of context, Reznorâs gut reaction was less critical than visceral.
âAt first, when you hear your stuff turned into something else, it always feels awkward because itâs something that intimately came from you in some way,â Reznor tells Rolling Stone. He likens it to being taken aback at hearing the way Johnny Cash turned his sparsely gothic Downward Spiral track âHurt,â which references drug use, into an acoustic country love song. âYou feel a little bit violated, you know?â he laughs. âAnd then you get over that, and you realize it has become something else, and the Johnny Cash thing is incredible. Itâs very flattering.
The NIN song, "34 Ghosts IV," was actually included in a beat made by the Dutch producer YoungKio, which Lil Nas X purchased online for $30.Â
YoungKio said that before he made the beat interpolating the NIN song, he'd found it on YouTube.Â
(Prior to that, he'd never heard of Nine Inch Nails or Trent Reznor...
"Ghosts" was released under a Creative Commons License, which gives "listeners the ability to remix and redistribute the work from a multitude of different formats"Â
The sample itself was never cleared to appear on the beat that YoungKio put up for sale, or on Lil Nas X's original song.
âThe way it was presented to me originally is I got a call from my management saying, âWe got a call from a panicked manager saying they had used the sample of something off Ghosts,'â Reznor recalls. ââThey should have cleared it, but it didnât get cleared. Itâs picking up some steam on the viral Spotify charts. What do you think about that?â And I said, âLook, Iâm fine with it. I get how stuff goes. Theyâre not saying they didnât sample it. Just work it out, but donât be a roadblock to this.â I hadnât heard it yet. Then a few weeks later, I was like, âHoly shit.'â
Reznor calls âOld Town Roadâ âundeniably hooky,â but once it exploded, he took a back seat to the phenomenon. âThe reason I havenât stepped in to comment anything about it is, I donât feel itâs my place to play any kind of social critic to that,â he says. âIt was a material that was used in a significant way and it turned into something that became something else, and those guys should be the ones the spotlight is onâŚ. They asked if I wanted to do a cameo in the video, and it was flattering, and I donât mean to be disrespectful, but I donât feel like itâs my place to shine a light on me for that. I say that with complete respect.â
Still, Reznor is amazed at how the song became a juggernaut. âHaving been listed on the credits of the all-time, Number One whatever-the-fuck-it-is wasnât somethingâŚI didnât see that one coming,â he says. âBut the world is full of weird things that happen like that. Itâs flattering. But I donât feel itâs for me to step in there and pat myself on the back for that.â
But does he like it? âItâs been stuck in my head enough,â he says. âLetâs put it that way.â
It's insane to me the stuff that gets cleared, and what doesn't, and what producers are still able to get away with.
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